Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Indiana

Ted Landau wonders if he can convert TiVo files into an iPhone format. He can, but not without a good deal of time and hassle.

Local Companies

Eaton Corporation
(260) 693-0307
118 W Washington St
Churubusco, IN
Alliance Plastics Inc
(574) 264-1116
Elkhart, IN
Porter Tv Sales & Service
(812) 636-4206
RR 1
Elnora, IN
Babsco Supply
(574) 935-5337
1998 W Jefferson St
Plymouth, IN
Kirby Risk Electrical Supply
(574) 232-1232
1904 N Kenmore St
South Bend, IN
Kokomo Electric Supply
(765) 457-5288
1432 S Main St
Kokomo, IN
Kirby Risk Electrical Supply
(317) 398-3700
2323 E Michigan Rd
Shelbyville, IN
All Phase Electric Supplies
(574) 259-4267
55685 Currant Rd
Mishawaka, IN
Consolidated Electrical Distributors
(574) 282-2731
1213 S Main St
South Bend, IN
Kirby Risk Electrical Supply
(765) 457-5255
1813 E Vaile Ave
Kokomo, IN

provided by: 


Toast 10 Titanium allows you to transfer recordings from your TiVo digital video recorder to your Mac. You do this via a separate TiVo Transfer application included with the Toast. I have several programs on my TiVo that I haven't had time to watch, and am unlikely to watch anytime soon. As I didn't want these programs continuing to take up valuable space on my TiVo's drive, transferring them to my Mac seemed the perfect solution.

The TiVo Transfer utility did its job, exactly as promised. Once on my Mac, I could play the shows via the Toast Video Player, also included with Toast 10. However, I wanted a bit more. Each hour of video took up more than 3GB. I didn't want to devote that much space to these TV shows, even on my Mac. The solution: Convert the files to an iPhone format. This would not only save space, but would give me the added flexibility of being able to view the shows from my iPhone.

The question was: Could I do this? The answer is: Yes, but not without a good deal of time and hassle.

The TiVo files will not open in most video player/editor applications, including QuickTime Player (standard or Pro). This is probably deliberate, as TiVo does not want to make it too easy to "repurpose" these transfers, due to digital-rights management concerns. Still, I wanted to give it a try.

I figured others had traveled down this road before me, so I searched the Web for a solution. I was not disappointed. I quickly found TiVo Decoder, a freeware utility that converts .tivo files to the MPEG-2 format. While this was a move in the right direction, it was not a total solution.

The MPEG-2 files still took up just as much space as the original .tivo files. The MPEG-2 files will similarly refuse to open in QuickTime Player-unless you fork over $20 for Apple's QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component. Assuming this is your only need for the Component, I recommend not wasting your cash here. While these MPEG-2 files will open after the Component is installed, you won't hear any audio on playback.

These TiVo-derived MPEG-2 files are multiplexed (or "muxed" in the vernacular). This means that "the audio and video tracks are interleaved together into one track." It turns out that the QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component cannot demux the audio and video, which means you hear nothing when playing the file (as confirmed in this Apple article). Nor can QuickTime Player successfully export these files to another format.

While Apple may consider this a feature rather than a bug, I consider it a very close call at best. It is certainly a deficiency-especially so when you consider that there are completely free alternatives, such as StreamClip and VLC, which can play both the video and audio. However, these programs are less than ideal for exporting the files to the iPhone format. For this task, I settled on yet another freeware utility: iTiVo.

iTiVo does not play video; it's a file converter. It accesses your TiVo device, transfers selected files to your Mac and performs a conversion of the files to an iPhone format (or any of several other formats) after just a single click of a Download button. This eliminates the need for Toast 10's TiVo Transfer utility.

Of course, you knew there'd be a catch. iTiVo (and its cousins) remain quite buggy. For one thing, the program is a graphical front-end for underlying UNIX software, notably tivodecode. The tivodecode process regularly crashed while I was working with iTiVo, halting whatever transfer was in progress. Even when things appeared to go well, I occasionally wound up with a file that was missing the last 10 minutes of the recording. Still, when the stars were aligned correctly, I did manage to successfully produce iPhone-formatted files that were almost one-third the size of the original.

I eventually hit upon another solution that proved more reliable, although more expensive: I began by transferring the files via TiVo Transfer and converting them via TiVo Decoder. From here, I used Elgato's Turbo.264 to convert the MPEG-2 files to the iPhone format.

Regardless of what method you choose, it will take up a good chunk of time and may require a few tries before it succeeds. While it isn't something I intend to do often, it's good to know that the option exists.

Update: Since posting this blog entry, I've discovered that if you own Toast 10, there is an easier solution than I described above. Toast 10 can indeed convert TiVo files to iPhone files. Here's one way to do it:

  1. Go to the Convert option in Toast and select the Video Files option.
  2. From here, click the Add button, locate the desired TiVo file and select it.
  3. Click Toast's red button. From the dialog that appears, select your desired format.
  4. Click Convert. And wait.
Ted Landau, Macworld.com
Read article at Macworld.com
Regional Articles
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Anderson IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Angola IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Bedford IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Bloomington IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Brazil IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Brownsburg IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Carmel IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Chesterton IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Columbia City IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Columbus IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Connersville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Crawfordsville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Crown Point IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Dyer IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers East Chicago IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Elkhart IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Evansville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Fishers IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Fort Wayne IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Franklin IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Gary IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Goshen IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Granger IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Greenfield IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Greenwood IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Hammond IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Hobart IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Huntington IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Indianapolis IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Jeffersonville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Kendallville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Kokomo IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Lafayette IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Laporte IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Logansport IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Marion IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Martinsville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Merrillville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Michigan City IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Mishawaka IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Muncie IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Munster IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers New Albany IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers New Castle IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Newburgh IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Noblesville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers North Vernon IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Peru IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Portage IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Richmond IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Schererville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Seymour IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Shelbyville IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers South Bend IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Terre Haute IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Valparaiso IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Vincennes IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Wabash IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Warsaw IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers West Lafayette IN
- Bugs & Fixes: Bugs affect TiVo-to-iPhone transfers Zionsville IN
Related Local Event
Gear Expo 2009
Dates: 9/15/2009 - 9/17/2009
Location: Indiana Convention Center, Indianapolis
Indianapolis, IN
View Details

Rss   Delicious   Digg   Add To My Yahoo   Add To My Google   Bookmark   Search Plugin

Topics:
Advertising Family Home Services Real Estate Resources
Business Services Fashion Industrial Goods & Services Retail & Consumer Services
Career Financial Services Insurance Software
Cars Food & Beverage Internet Technology
Computer Hardware Franchise Legal Telecommunications
Construction Health Miscellaneous Trade Shows
Education Holidays Nightlife Travel
Entertainment Home Appliances Online Database Weddings
Environmental Home Electronics Pets World History